Comments on: Women, Homosexuals, and the Bible (oh my!) http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/ Thoughts on faith and culture from the community of NewLife Christian Fellowship, Glastonbury, CT Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:05:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mark http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-8691 Mark Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:37:41 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-8691 Just because it is only talked about 1, 2 , 3 or 4 times in GODs word, does not mean that is any less important than the rest of his word. Just because it is only talked about 1, 2 , 3 or 4 times in GODs word, does not mean that is any less important than the rest of his word.

]]> By: The NewLife Blog » Homosexuality and the Church http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-657 The NewLife Blog » Homosexuality and the Church Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:48:15 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-657 [...] give me a holy kiss...If I had written the Bible...Does the Bible support slavery & spousal abuse?Women, Homosexuals, and the Bible (oh my!)Don't go to sleep tonight... because Jesus might come back!Would Jesus send someone to Hell?Scaring [...] [...] give me a holy kiss…If I had written the Bible…Does the Bible support slavery & spousal abuse?Women, Homosexuals, and the Bible (oh my!)Don’t go to sleep tonight… because Jesus might come back!Would Jesus send someone to Hell?Scaring [...]

]]> By: Mike Smith http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Mike Smith Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:58:12 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-162 Good questions. I've agonized over many of them in the past and you've added a few new ones to my list. (Thanks a lot.) I know that as a pastor and as a church, you have to grapple with at least some of these issues and come to some agreement. There are those who will not see them as "secondary" and will all too happily split the church over them. I'm glad I'm not an elder. As an individual, I'm becoming more and more comfortable not having black and white answers. The older I get, the less I know for sure. It's as if God is whittling away all my absolutes until there will be nothing left but "love the Lord your God" and "love your neighbor". When I have hurt someone in the past, it was often because I loved my beliefs more than I loved God or the person. Sometimes truly loving someone involves confronting and condemning some sin in their life. I just haven't ever found this to be true unless I have a real relationship with the person. Condemning people as a group precludes us from having those real loving relationships. -Mike Good questions. I’ve agonized over many of them in the past and you’ve added a few new ones to my list. (Thanks a lot.)

I know that as a pastor and as a church, you have to grapple with at least some of these issues and come to some agreement. There are those who will not see them as “secondary” and will all too happily split the church over them. I’m glad I’m not an elder.

As an individual, I’m becoming more and more comfortable not having black and white answers. The older I get, the less I know for sure. It’s as if God is whittling away all my absolutes until there will be nothing left but “love the Lord your God” and “love your neighbor”. When I have hurt someone in the past, it was often because I loved my beliefs more than I loved God or the person. Sometimes truly loving someone involves confronting and condemning some sin in their life. I just haven’t ever found this to be true unless I have a real relationship with the person. Condemning people as a group precludes us from having those real loving relationships.

-Mike

]]> By: child of a gay parent http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-96 child of a gay parent Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:14:04 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-96 As a Christian, to what extent does "Honor your mother and father" apply to when they have a mother or father who is a homosexual? As a Christian, to what extent does “Honor your mother and father” apply to when they have a mother or father who is a homosexual?

]]> By: john umland http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-92 john umland Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:35:22 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-92 i don't think the homosexual issue is limited to 4 passages. its related to all of the sexual purity passages and marriage passages. if two of the same identity are married then how is the difference between Christ and the church modeled? which partner plays the church/bride and which represents Christ/groom? i have many blog posts on homosexuality at my blog. umbl0g.blogspot.com God is good jpu i don’t think the homosexual issue is limited to 4 passages. its related to all of the sexual purity passages and marriage passages. if two of the same identity are married then how is the difference between Christ and the church modeled? which partner plays the church/bride and which represents Christ/groom? i have many blog posts on homosexuality at my blog. umbl0g.blogspot.com
God is good
jpu

]]> By: Rich Lacoss http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Rich Lacoss Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:19:31 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-88 Two things: One, I think the fellow bloggers are filled with questions and not answers. I know I am. I'm glad this issue isn't central to our faith, because its so hard to sort it all out. I remember hearing Tony Campolo speak on "the gay issue" and how the church should respond. He and his wife differ in opinion on this subject to the point that they attend different churches. Incredible. Two: A thought on the Ephesians 5:24 passage about wives submitting to husbands. The verse is a lightning rod, but it is seldom mentioned that it is in a passage that emphasizes that all believers should submit to each other. 5:21 says "be subject to one another in the fear of Christ." 5:25 says "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her." Not many people talk about those verses, but I think the passage as a whole is about mutual submission. The question that remains, after reading things like "the husband is the head of the wife" is, does submission look different depending on whether you are the husband or wife? I guess I think it does. Two things: One, I think the fellow bloggers are filled with questions and not answers. I know I am. I’m glad this issue isn’t central to our faith, because its so hard to sort it all out. I remember hearing Tony Campolo speak on “the gay issue” and how the church should respond. He and his wife differ in opinion on this subject to the point that they attend different churches. Incredible.
Two: A thought on the Ephesians 5:24 passage about wives submitting to husbands. The verse is a lightning rod, but it is seldom mentioned that it is in a passage that emphasizes that all believers should submit to each other. 5:21 says “be subject to one another in the fear of Christ.” 5:25 says “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” Not many people talk about those verses, but I think the passage as a whole is about mutual submission. The question that remains, after reading things like “the husband is the head of the wife” is, does submission look different depending on whether you are the husband or wife? I guess I think it does.

]]> By: a seeker http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-86 a seeker Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:21:46 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-86 Question: What does it mean when Paul says that sexual sins are sins against your own body? Is it the physical body? Is it against the Holy Spirit who indwells our body? Is it against the whole body of Christ? All three? (See 1 Corinthians 6:18-20) Question: What does it mean when Paul says that sexual sins are sins against your own body? Is it the physical body? Is it against the Holy Spirit who indwells our body? Is it against the whole body of Christ? All three? (See 1 Corinthians 6:18-20)

]]> By: a seeker http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-85 a seeker Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:18:05 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-85 Maybe people are afraid to post on homosexuality for fear of offending someone. Maybe people are afraid to post on homosexuality for fear of offending someone.

]]> By: Eric Stillman http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Eric Stillman Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:17:21 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-84 Walking around this post with 10 foot poles, methinks. Walking around this post with 10 foot poles, methinks.

]]> By: a seeker http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-83 a seeker Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:16:07 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-83 Question: Is it Biblical for a woman to be a Pastor? Question: Is it Biblical for a woman to be a Pastor?

]]> By: a seeker http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-82 a seeker Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:13:26 +0000 http://www.newlife-glastonbury.org/blog/2007/03/06/women-homosexuals-and-the-bible-oh-my/#comment-82 Come on, fellow bloggers. Where are you? Come on, fellow bloggers. Where are you?

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