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[ # ] Mike Yaconelli vs. Ron Luce
Posted by Eric Stillman on May 19th, 2009 under Discipleship, NewLifePrint This Post  Print This Post

Two of the most influential voices in my life during my youth pastor years were Mike Yaconelli and Ron Luce.  They were two men who loved Jesus, loved teenagers and youth pastors, but could not have been more different in their approach to youth ministry.  Yaconelli was the co-founder of Youth Specialties, an organization that provided tons of resources and training to youth pastors across the world, but during his later years became a man with an almost singular focus on the importance of helping teens and youth pastors develop intimate relationships with Jesus.  He hated how youth ministry had become so focused on big events, big numbers, and attractive personalities, and loved to honor those men and women who may not have fit the stereotypical mold but because of their willingness to love teens were making an eternal difference.  He would tell stories about 75 year-old grandmothers, rough-around-the-edges truckers, and scared youth leaders everywhere who just wanted to love young people to Jesus.  Yaconelli frequently boasted about being the pastor of the “slowest growing church in America”, a small community church out in California that had shrunk since his arrival, but based on his stories seemed to be made up of a lovable band of misfits who would dare to follow Jesus wherever He led, even if it involved doing things that normal churches might not do.  His message was a simple message that always reminded me of Jesus’ incredible love and grace over us, no matter how far we fell short of the ideal.

 And then there was Ron Luce.  In some ways, Ron seemed to epitomize everything that Yaconelli was speaking against.  He also loved Jesus, loved teens and their youth pastors, but was a man of tremendous vision and passion who was always looking to do something bigger and with greater impact.  He founded an organization called Teen Mania, putting on high energy conferences around the country called Acquire the Fire, and organizing dozens of mission trips for teens every year to places around the globe.  He created a discipleship school called the Honor Academy, wrote books and produced videos about growing your youth ministry and reaching teens for Christ, and seemed to do it all from a perpetual spiritual high.  When we went to Acquire the Fire, teenagers inevitably came away “on fire” for God, ready to conquer the world and defeat all enemies in their path.  And we youth pastors all came away determined to not let the fire go out, but to challenge our teens to higher and greater depths in their walk with the Lord. 

 Mike Yaconelli and Ron Luce were two who loved Jesus and loved youth ministry, but who could not have been more different in their approach.  I resonated so deeply with Yaconelli and his Jesus who passionately loved us and was full of compassion and grace towards the broken, the ordinary, those who just never measured up to the person they knew God wanted them to be.  But something in my spirit just longed for what I saw in Ron Luce, a man who you knew was up at the crack of dawn to seek the Lord on his knees, who lived with passionate abandon for God, with a desire to see the gospel reach the far ends of the earth and to do everything he did with excellence unto the Lord.

 I also realized that there were downsides to both approaches.  With Yaconelli, his emphasis on intimacy with Jesus and the grace of our Savior made it tempting for me to become complacent, to rest in the accepting love of God and never challenge myself to move past that.  On the other hand, with Luce, I could see how easy it was for teenagers to equate spiritual maturity with always being “on fire” for God and to believe God’s love for us was based on our performance.  Therefore, when the passion faded (usually about 24 hours after an Acquire the Fire conference), they would come to see themselves in some sort of spiritual backslide, never living up to the Ron Luce Jesus who seemed to be like a coach on the side of the track with a stopwatch, yelling “Faster!!!  Faster!!!” at us until we finally gave up. 

 These past five weeks as I have preached on biblical assurance, especially focusing on the tests given in 1 John that evaluate the genuineness of our faith, I have been reminded of these two men.  John gives strong challenges in his letter, like how the one who knows God will not continue in unrepentant sin, will not walk in the darkness, and will not hate his brother.  The goal of the series was in line with 1 John 5:13 “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life;” I wanted to give assurance to those who truly do know Jesus and have eternal life, while creating a real doubt based on Scripture in the hearts of those who may not truly know Him.  But I also realize that we all fall short in many ways and never measure up to the man or woman we know God wants us to be.  I do not want to leave anyone believing that unless you are living perfectly 24-7 and always desiring God in your day-to-day life, that you are not truly a believer.  God is not the track coach yelling at you to go faster, shaking his head at you every time you miss a quiet time or don’t tell your co-worker about Jesus.  God is a Father who sees every believer as perfect in his sight not because they had their quiet time but because of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.

 At the same time, 1 John is meant to challenge you.  It is meant to be a mirror in some ways that you hold up in order to see whether your life shows evidence that God has done and continues to do a supernatural work in your life.  Has He saved you from your sin?  Is He continuing to sanctify you, to discipline the sin out of you and replace it with His eternal life, His heart, His love for others?  We must always hold these two truths in tension – God loves you just as you are, but loves you too much to let you stay the way you are.  He wants you to be just like Jesus

I think that the only way to become like Jesus is to have both kinds of people in your life – the Mike Yaconellis who remind you of the perfect love of God, full of grace and intimacy, drawing you to worship Him and seek Him and trust Him as a Father who loves you; and the Ron Luces, who will not let you stay as you are, but want to continually challenge you to greater depths in your walk with Jesus, to always give Him your all so that the gospel might go forth to all your nations.  The Yaconellis are better at communicating the beautiful love of God that is extended to all of us, no matter how much we stumble and fall, while the Luces excel at communicating the love of God that calls us higher, that exhorts us to spend our lives on that which truly satisfies.  I encourage you to seek both of those voices in your life, to understand their strengths and weaknesses, and to allow God to use both of them in your life for His glory.


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[ # 19495 ] Comment from Billy [July 15, 2009, 4:13 am]

I really enjoyed this article, and I can totally relate to the dichotomy here (if that’s the right word…) as it seems for years in my spiritual life I have been tussling back and forth between these two teachers as well, always believing that the two views presented by them both were so mutually exclusive that I had to choose one over the other, and to the exclusion of the other.

A brief back-story for context first. The youth group I came up in regularly attended the Acquire the Fire conferences. A few of these events indeed marked what I would consider to be spiritual high points for me in my Christian walk. However, around this same time, I was also turned on to Yaconelli and exposed to his writings in the books “Messy Spirituality” and “Dangerous Wonder”… which I can say have had a greater impact upon me than any other books I’ve ever read (excluding the Bible) concerning religion and spirituality.

Normally in the weeks leading up to attending ATF, my youth pastor would craft his lessons to fit in with whatever the theme of that year’s conference was. To be honest at times I was uncomfortable with some of these lessons because they were wrapped heavy in militaristic jingoisms. We had to dawn our fatigues and go out into “enemy territory” as this group of pseudo-elite “Commandos for Christ” and do battle with the enemy in order to obtain the ultimate victory for ourselves in the end setting.

On the other extreme end of this, was the picture painted by Mike Yaconelli in his book Dangerous Wonder, of a Jesus who just wanted to love you right into eternity if you would just allow him to do so. The story that most grabbed me was the one of the little girl (who was disabled I believe) playing tee-ball, who naturally, never was able to hit said ball most of the time, then one day, out of the blue, knocks the ball deep into the outfield, and starts running the bases as fast as her abilities would allow her.. She rounds, first, second, then third, all the while, all the coaches, and parents, and everyone looking on were all screaming at the top of their lungs for her to get back to home plate and score the winning run. But then, instead of going on to claim her moment of glory in the world of little league Tee-ball, she notices a shaggy, but cuddly looking old dog beckoning her over by the bleachers, and instinctively, she goes to the dog.

How do I reconcile this with the shouting football coach/army general image of Jesus you get with Ron Luce? If it were him telling this story, would the little girl and the dog still be the heroes, or would it be a cautionary tale of someone getting so close to achieving their true potential, but then allowing a split-second distraction to lure them away from it? Perhaps, but I don’t think so. It’s taken a long time, but I think I’m beginning to see the differences between these men in kind of the same way some people read differences into the Apostle Paul and James, on the issue of faith and works… Now, in reality they (Paul and James) may have had real disagreements on this issue in some respects (as I imagine Yaconelli and Luce did as well on many issues…) but still the same Holy Spirit used them both to convey God’s thoughts on two different (but very related) issues. So just like you need to read James in order to get perspective on Paul’s epistles, and vice versa, to achieve a greater balance, so too, seemingly contrasting voices like Ron Luce and Mike Yaconelli can also, as you said, work together in order to create a fuller, and more balanced young Christian.

The problem arises only when one wanders too far into one extreme like you mentioned, and, on the Yac side, becoming complacent and just resting on your laurels that Jesus loves you and therefore you can just take it easy and becoming the dead lifeless kind of Christian that Ron Luce tries so hard to reach, in order to motivate them to lead a life worthy of the calling placed on them, or the Luce side, which one could strive so hard to achieve perfection that they become the burned out Christian wreck that Yaconelli warned of, and worked so hard to reach as well.

God bless.

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